How can Salat be finished - 62:10??

by Hicham Mouna, Denmark, Monday, June 04, 2012, 06:05 (2514 days ago) @ Ilyas Niazi

SA!

Brother Ilyas, i'm gonna address a couple of things in this post. In no point am i intending to be rude or anything else.
I simply wish to highlight some things for you.

Firstly, you write
Where does the Quran say that salaat = Following in the steps of Allah so as to achieve as good a character as possible????

Mumeens seek to follow the deen, the decree issued to us by Allah. Deen is following the qu'ran, and salaat is part of the deen, so salaat, essentially deen is to strive for building of an islamic community in which the Qu'ran is the building block and its people are its builders, those who strive to achieve as good a character as possible. This is evidences by the Qu'ran and its message. I cannot point you to one specific verse in the Qu'ran. It's entire message is this, even N2I muslims will tell you this. If you disagree, then i would like you to provide me both lingual and quranic proof that this is not true.

Secondly, you write
Then you said when talking about gathering "This salaat can end in the sense of a meeting ending. But since salaat never actually ends, as we must, after the meeting, strive to achieve the goals set, which in sense is following the decree set by Allah as a way of respecting Salaat".

So is salaat

(a) a meeting?
(b) Following in the steps of Allah to achieve good character?

It cannot be both things. The same way 3 separate persons cannot be 1 person!!!

Now my comments: :-)

Dear brother, firstly you cannot compare the trinity to this. Salaat is a word with a meaning, trinity is believing in absurdities that God enseminated in spirit form, in sense, his own mother, and gave birth to himself.
While Salaat is a word with a meaning..

Brother Ilyas, are you aware that an arabic word, depending on its form, can have as many as 10 meanings depending on the form and its written context?

I, as much as i don't want to, must ask, did you read my entire post? Brother Jawaid gave an excellent explanation of salaat in its forms and context.

Here you were given both lingual and Qu'ranic proof of the word Salaat?
I'm not sure a much simpler answer can be given to you?

You seem very adamant in your conclusion that Salaat can have only one meaning, despite about 10+ posts saying otherwise with the qu'ranic and lingual proof to back it.

I must now ask you of 1 thing.
1. Please give me lingual and qu'ranic proof that Salaat can only mean 1 thing.

I'm a very simpleminded person, so please keep your answer simple! :D

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Best regards
Hicham

- a novice in the long road of learning


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