How can Salat be finished - 62:10??

by Ilyas Niazi, United States, Monday, June 04, 2012, 13:08 (2484 days ago) @ Hicham Mouna

My brother,

I will keep it very simple. I also do not want to be rude. But you must also be willing to listen.

I am on a forum where most people protect each other because they think one way. It is like being on a forum of Sunni's or Shia's where they all think one way.

If you think you have all the answers and you are 100% correct in what you believe, then no need to discuss.

But if you think that there might be better explanation, then put your hand on your heart and please try to listen.

If you make a claim that salaat means X (different from how it is understood by 99.9% of the Muslim world throughout history)- then you have to prove that it means that from the Quran. It is not for me to prove your position. The burden of proof is on you as you are making the claim.

The best explanation of a word is from the Quran's own context, not from Brother Jawaid or someone else's interpretation. If you are going to provide 10 different meanings to a word, then you must provide evidence why you are choosing one as the best fitting over the others.

In today 's world - most Arabic speaking people believe salat to mean certain prayers. Nearly all dictionaries also believe that to be true and if you look at most translations, they also agree. So lets not kid about this and hide this fact under the carpet.

So you have to admit that you are providing an understanding of salaat which is not in the dictionaries or in the spoken language. It is a 'theology'. So it is not for me to provide you lingual or quranic proof of your theology.

I compared Trinity with your concept of salaat as a 'theology'. Pls understand this point. The comparison is fair. Both theology are not in the scriptures - They are being 'pushed' into the scriptures.

I have challenged your concept through the Quran. Your theology doesn't fit all the quran's verses.

So please try to understand first on who the burden of proof is. You are claiming something which not only traditional muslims disagree with but most of the people that follow the quran also disagree with your interpretation of salat. Please let us say it as it is and not hide from the way things actually are.

You are saying salaat = 2 things - so you must provide the evidence. The dictionaries - nearly all dictionaries apart from your school of thought, define it one way. All speaking Arabs define it one way. You are making a theology out of it, so please provide Quranic evidence.

People may not like me here, but this is not a popularity context. If you are going to make a claim, you have to defend it.


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