by amirabbas, Iran, Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 17:03 (2153 days ago) @ Damon

Dear Damon,

upon reading verse 2:187,

2:187 (Abstinence is only for the daytime.) It has been made lawful for you to go to your wives on the night of the Abstinence. They are your garments and you are their garments - close to each other, source of mutual comfort, complementing each other, trustworthy and keepers of privacy, reason for d├ęcor, and redressers of faults. God knows that you would have deprived yourselves, feeling guilty, and so He turns to you and pardons you. So, now you may have intimate relations with them and, besides, seek all good that God has ordained for you. You may eat and drink until you can discern the white streak of light against the black streak of night at daybreak. Then complete the Abstinence until sunset. Do not have intimate relations with them while on special assignments in the Centers of the Divine System. These are the bounds set by God - so come not near violating them. Thus God explains His commands to mankind clearly, so that they understand and remain observant.

one can realize that there's a prohibition on "Eat and Drink" because the verse clearly states that we may eat and drink until a certain period and after that, we must complete the abstinence!

Although I am very open towards what you are suggesting and there are doubts on my mind as well, but, we cannot easily reject the traditional aspects because it's been already stated that, "O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! Abstinence (from food, drink and sex during the daytime) is prescribed for you as it was prescribed for those before you so that you get empowered against evil."

According to Merriam-Webster, tradition can mean "the handing down of information, beliefs, and customs by word of mouth or by example from one generation to another without written instruction."

Certainly, you do not really think that everything traditional is absurd, religious, offensive and destructive!

I think we need evidence, from those that were before us, on how to complete "SAUM"! And if Mary did indeed eat, drink and speak while observing "SAUM", then what else can this abstinence program be apart from desisting from eating, drinking, excessive speaking, and behaviors?!

I am aware that Zoroastrians, have instruction on not to eat meat (or maybe other stuff) for certain numbers of days in a month (ROOZAH!)... and throughout the history (those before us!) there have always been instructions on similar abstinence programs whether we see them strictly religious or not!

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