Where Prophet Muhammad (P) lived?

by vazir, Wednesday, October 09, 2013, 21:51 (1410 days ago) @ amirabbas

"There were some messengers living in the Arabian peninsula long before the Arabs became a community there. But we know that the Arabs who are descendents of Ismael didn't have any messengers before Muhammad (S)."

Really we know? Then, explain following verse.

O People of the Scripture! Our Messenger has come to you, to make the truth clear, after an interval without Messengers. Lest you say, “No Messengers came to us to give good news and to warn.” Now has come to you the giver of glad tiding and warning. God has Power over all things and events. [5:19]

Why are they being called "People of the Book" if no messenger had EVER come to them?

"The first receivers of the Qur'an were aware of their previous communities and ancestors by the way of hearsay and poetry so that they must have heard about Aad, Thamud, Lut, and etc. from those sources and also from the books that were/are present with Jews and Christians."

Verses are not addressed to people who were merely aware of those communities. They are addressed to people around Prophet SAW who were demanding proof / sign. In every verse, I quoted, represents "You (Singular)" for the Prophet SAW and "You (Plural) for the PRIMARY AUDIENCE means people around him.

And We left remains of it as a clear sign for a people who understand. [29:35]

And We have left in it a sign for those who fear the painful retribution. [51:37]

Therein are lessons for the "mutawassimeen". Those towns stood by a road that still exists. In that is a sign for the believers. [15:75-77] [ "mutawassimeen" are those who seek or demand clear identifiable sign or mark.]

Please pay attention again on following verses:

And indeed you surely pass by their ruins in the morning; * and in the night. Do you (Plural) not comprehend? [37: 137 - 138].

..., and it is not far from the Wicked. [11:83].

Do you see anything remaining of them? [69:8].

And We destroyed the towns around you and We had dispatched the signs, perhaps they would repent. [46:27].

And 'Ād and Thamūd. Much was made apparent to you from their dwellings. .... [29:38].

Is it not a guide for them that how many generations We had destroyed before them in whose dwellings they are walking (now)? In that are signs for the people of understanding. [20:128].

And you resided in the dwellings of those who had wronged themselves, and it was made clear to you what We did to them; and We had put forth the examples for you. [14:45].

Are not above verses addressed to primary audience who not only seeing and walking, but dwelling in the region of those communities?

"I don't think the point of those verses is that everybody should certainly witness those ruins and dwellings leftover from the previous communities in order to draw lessons from the Qur'an. Likewise, not everyone is witnessing the expansion of the Universe, or the existence of elementary particles, which need sophisticated instruments and calculations; but from the scientific sources we learn about them and come to accept them."

No, there is certainly no requirement for everyone to witness ruins scattered around primary audience. But, those were certainly signs for people around Prophet SAW.

The analogy you tried to draw by quoting verses 51:47 and 36:36 seems irrelevant to point I want to make. These types of verses are proof that the book, we have, is not from human source. And I am sure sometime in future archaeology will prove the each and every verse of Quranic narration true and our current understanding false.

In time We will show them Our signs in the utmost Horizons and within themselves, so that it will become clear to them that this Qur’an is certainly the truth. …. [41:53]

The point I want to make is that our current understanding of geographic dimension is not supporting the topography mentioned in Qur'an. Something is missing there.

The verses, I quoted in my post, makes it clear that Prophet SAW lived in the region where mother of town was located and surrounded by many towns where many messengers were sent by Allah SWT. Out of them many were destroyed and their ruins were left as a signs for primary audience of Prophet SAW and others.

Ponder over following verses:

And We sent down from the sky water in due measure, then We let it reside in the land, and We are capable of taking it away.* So We brought forth for you gardens of palm trees and grapes. For you in it are plentiful fruits and from them you eat. * And a tree which emerges from the tūr of Seenā’, it grows with oil and is a relish for those who eat. [Quran, 23:18-21]

Who are addressed here by word "YOU", which is plural, if not people around Prophet SAW? Are they not being asked to reflect on how the rain causes the earth to sprout palm trees and grapes for them to eat from? Did Allah not putting forth an example of the green wooded slopes of Seenā’ for them? Does this not mean that Muhammad (P) and his people resided very near that green mountain, and were very familiar with it?


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