Islamic Code for Governance after The Exalted Prophet

by Syed Ijlal Hussain ⌂ @, Karachi, Pakistan, Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 15:04 (2531 days ago)

Salamun Alaikum!

My Uncle (being a retired Army Colonel) has the following question that I copy below:

As you say that Quran is a complete code of life (zabta e Hayat) thus does not require any Prophet for its practical manifestation to the people in the shape of Sunnah and Hadith and (Quran) is thus sufficient for one's own interpretation. Then what is the system given by Quran for the selection of Khalifa or Iman after the Prophet? This is the most important strategic matter which must be addressed in Quran as in the absence of same, Muslim Ummah will go astray and will resort to civil wars...(which actually happened after the demise of the Prophet and the Fitna which started in the times of Uthman will so remain till the end of the world as mentioned by Dr. Taha Hussain, Dr. Abdul Hamid, both renouned scholars of Islamic History who completed their PhDs from French and Harward Universities respectively).

Col. Khalid Masood Khan

I would appreciate if highly knowledgeable students of The Quran such as Dr. Shabbir Ahmed, Brother Jawaid Ahmed also take part in answering the question.

I know the answer but being a nephew, I don't want to seem arrogant. The question is how do we satisfy people who have been fed with falsified history?


Islamic Code for Governance after The Exalted Prophet

by Quasim Hamdani, Chicago, Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 18:18 (2531 days ago) @ Syed Ijlal Hussain

To assume that the Muslim ummah will or should select a Khalifa without the underlying conditions being right for such a setup is unrealistic. The Quran clearly states the basic principal for decisions making in verse 42:38 "..conduct their affairs by mutual consultation (shura)..."

Civil wars are a direct result of diverging ideologies and oppression. Toward the end of lineage of sahaba, the political center of the Muslim empire had shifted to Damascus and Baghdad with raging dissension throughout the realm. Competing ideologies from Persia and other regions created instability, and as we know, the ideologies from Persia prevailed.

We read history to learn from it. If we do not learn our lesson, we are doomed to repeat it.

Islamic Code for Governance after The Exalted Prophet

by Syed Ijlal Hussain ⌂ @, Karachi, Pakistan, Thursday, June 21, 2012, 07:02 (2531 days ago) @ Quasim Hamdani

Hamdani Bhai,

You are quite right but the main question is how do we make people unlearn what they have learned from falsified history? Very few people here are even willing to go through Dr. Shabbir's 'The True History of Islam' once, let alone believe in it.

Is it not possible to have the ancient manuscripts and books that Dr. Shabbir has referred to and possesses, the ones that predate Tabari, scanned and placed on the net for all to see? Shouldn't that help in minimizing the natural skepticism that arises in the minds of people who have been taught N2I from childhood? I am sure all or most of that is not copyright material.

Just my two cents.

Islamic Code for Governance after The Exalted Prophet

by amirabbas, Iran, Thursday, June 21, 2012, 14:29 (2530 days ago) @ Syed Ijlal Hussain


We cannot make people learn or unlearn the truth; we only have the option of conveyance of the truth.

5:99 The messenger's duty is to convey the message, and God knows what you declare and what you hide.

16:82 Then, if they turn away, your only duty (O Prophet!) is clear conveyance of the message. [16:84]
16:83 In fact, they recognize God’s blessings, but they refuse to acknowledge them. (That is how) most of them are unbelievers. [16:71]

42:48 But if they turn away, We have not sent you as a guardian over them. Your duty is to convey the message. When We cause humans to taste of grace form Us, they rejoice in it. But if a calamity befalls them as a consequence of what their hands have sent forth, then, man is ungrateful. [They say that God had so willed]

There are people who willingly forsake their comfort zone in search of knowledge and the truth while others sting to the ground in pursuit of their whimsical desires and fancies.

9:38 O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! What is amiss with you that, when called upon, “Go forth in the cause of God,” you cling heavily to the ground? Do you choose pleasure in the life of this world rather than in the life to come? The enjoyment of this life is but a paltry thing compared to the Hereafter.

Dear brother, the Qur'an is saying that many choose to disbelief and remain ignorant and unaware while no amount of proof will be enough for them to clear their sights and false reasons.

6:35 If their rejection is hard on you, (remember they would still not believe) even if you were able to seek a tunnel in the ground or a ladder to the sky and bring them a miracle. If it were God’s will, He could assemble them together to true guidance. So, do not be among those who are swayed by ignorance (about free will given to humans).
[God wants His servants to reflect and make free choices. 2:256, 10:98-99, 12:108]

In reality many have only heard the history and never learned anything at all; this is called blind following.

Nothing like the Glorious Qur'an is capable of freeing people.

Islamic Code for Governance after The Exalted Prophet

by jawaid ahmed,uk @, Thursday, June 21, 2012, 14:31 (2530 days ago) @ Syed Ijlal Hussain

Many issues are dealt with in the Quran that are not followed by the majority of mankind, including the majority of Muslims. Take bribery for example, we all know it goes on all over the world and is openly rampant in Pakistan, from top to bottom of society. Brother Quasim has said that leaders are elected by the people, for the people [not for the PPP] so in order to make a change a majority or a sizeable minority need to know what is the best course of action and act upon this. The Jews wandered for 40 years before they had eliminated enough of the idol worshipping mentalities that made up their numbers when leaving Egypt; heaven does not come into existence on earth in a day!

When we had a Messenger of Allah in our midst, a man ‘connected’ to Allah, the majority did not believe him so anyone, Khalifa or Imam is not going to fair any better; there will always be dissension/going astray/civil wars, such is the folly of man.

The answer is to start educating the people with the Quran. The many wrongs people do should be challenged with this and once they have understood where they are wrong they may start to improve [!?]. Your uncle should be asked whether he agrees with the Quran when it says that a fornicator should be given 100 lashes or the hadith which says stone them to death. Once the doubt over the ‘blessed’ hadith sets in then the rest is a slow but rewarding journey to pure Quran.

Islamic Code for Governance after The Exalted Prophet

by Waqas ⌂ @, UK, Friday, June 22, 2012, 11:11 (2529 days ago) @ Syed Ijlal Hussain

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