the meaning of sabih - part 2

by Waqas ⌂ @, UK, Tuesday, June 10, 2014, 21:21 (1231 days ago)

peace all,

Part 2 now finished:
http://mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-SaBiH-from-Quran.html#Part2


Conclusion

SBH/glorification of God can come in different forms, including expression through actions and verbally. If timed-SBH is taken as timed-salat then it is a minimum of twice daily, with an optional night vigil which the messenger likely undertook regularly [17:79, 73:20]. If the messenger opted to SBH/glorify more than others, then the individual is also free to do the same.

the meaning of sabih - part 2

by jawaid ahmed @, Thursday, June 19, 2014, 14:39 (1223 days ago) @ Waqas

sabh means to strive hardest for achieving something; to strive the maximum; to make continuous effort

sabih means to make haste in God’s obedience

subhan Allah means to go towards God with speed and to remain steadfast in His obedience

tasbeeh, according to the Qur’an means to fully observe the laws of God with complete participation;

tasbeeh also means intensity, strength, and to engage in implementing God’s laws with speed.

The Qur’an says about the heavenly bodies: kullun fi falakin yasbihoon 36:40 they are all moving in their orbits

About birds it is said: kullun qad alema salatahu wa tasbeeh: 24:41 each one of them knows his way in the air; although there are no landmarks; or each one knows how to go about it its business or each one is aware of its limits and the way it has to make a living

sabbaha lillahi ma fis samaati wal ard: 57:1 whatever is in the universe is engaged in ferociously in carrying out the program designated by God’s laws; the things in the universe are instinctively tuned towards carrying out their programs;

SO:-

It has been said to the momineen: sabbihuhu bukrataw wa aseela: 33:42 you be engaged in completing this program day and night; but what is this program? About it is said: fasabbih bismi rabbikal azeem: 56:96 to be busy in implementing God’s laws, on which the entire universe hinges, in this human society; the struggle against the forces which create hurdles in this program is also called ‘zikr and tasbeeh’

And

30:17 you have to be engaged evening and morning in the duties fixed for you by God;

the meaning of sabih - part 2

by waqas ⌂ @, uk, Sunday, June 22, 2014, 12:31 (1220 days ago) @ jawaid ahmed

salaam/peace Jawaid,

You did not prove from any verse in Quran the meaning of SBH as you take it. Your meaning of SBH seems to be a presupposition.

I'm not sure how 56:96 supports your line of argument.

You make no mention of other verses which mention SBH alongside specific times of the day.

the meaning of sabih - part 2

by jawaid ahmed,uk @, Friday, June 27, 2014, 15:58 (1215 days ago) @ waqas

I tend to look at key verses which allow me to understand other verses without delving into the “perhaps, could be hyperbole, implying, let us assume, could be, it is likely, appreciates the point”.

My facts:-

24.41Alam tara anna Allaha YUSABBIHU lahu man fee ALSSAMAWATI waal-ardi waalttayru saffatin kullun qad AAalima SALATAHU waTASBEEHAHu waAllahu AAaleemun bima yafAAaloona
24.41. Seest thou not that it is Allah Whose praises all beings in the heavens and on earth do celebrate, and the birds (of the air) with wings outspread? Each one knows its own (mode of) prayer and praise. And Allah knows well all that they do.
24.42. Yea, to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth; and to Allah is the final goal (of all).
24.43. Seest thou not that Allah makes the clouds move gently, then joins them together, then makes them into a heap? - then wilt thou see rain issue forth from their midst. And He sends down from the sky mountain masses (of clouds) wherein is hail: He strikes therewith whom He pleases and He turns it away from whom He pleases, the vivid flash of His lightning well-nigh blinds the sight.
24.44. It is Allah Who alternates the Night and the Day: verily in these things is an instructive example for those who have vision!

Four words in a verse that our ancestors have turned into praising, singing, praying, bead counting, name repeating rituals for us instead of their real meaning which can be applied to the birds and the bees but not to us! You hit the nail on the head with one passage from your article:-

“Birds with wings outspread is given as an example of SBH that can be seen. The obvious question to reflect upon is what makes this an example of SBH? It seems to me the bird is simply utilising how it is designed, in unison with the laws of nature, in order to function or achieve its desired result. This majestic expression of innate design harnessing the laws of nature could be regarded as SBH (as it glorifies The Creator of such design and laws). The same could apply to humans as mentioned in 24:41, thus explain the usage.”

Why “could”? It is equally applicable to humans this understanding. We have to do everything in accordance with Divine and natural law [Allah Created natural law]. To go against nature results in harm, for example global warming, poisonous pesticides that affect our bodies, radiation poisoning, even getting our fingers burnt. Everything in the heavens does this because they cannot overridetheir ‘programming’, their instinct, their DNA. When they die, there is no ‘judgement’ upon them because they did what they were supposed to do.

We are sometimes capable of ‘thought’, thinking outside our programming that lets us do what we want within the limits of our capabilities. So we need an extrinsic source to allow us get past our ‘judgement’. To get there, we need to do it properly so I do Tasbeeh/sabiha from Sabah which means I strive hard, apply myself to the mission of implementing the Quranic principles in everything I do which is my Salaat, acting on God’s laws in every segment of life. This is done with Sajdah , complete submission, with willful obedience, utter humility and utmost commitment to Divine cause, humbling my own self, not acting arrogantly, with no false pride.

You might like:-

57.1. Whatever is in the heavens and on earth, let it declare the Praises and Glory of Allah, for He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.

But I prefer:-

57:1 All things in the heavens and earth are working relentlessly to fulfill the Divine Plan. He is the Almighty, the Wise.

So must we!

AND
56:96 Strive, then, to glorify the Name of your Lord Supreme. [Follow His commands to manifest His glory on earth as it is in the heavens]

Any other interpretation involves a choir of angels singing songs of praise to God in heaven, as the Christians believe! Not my cup of tea.

the meaning of sabih - part 2

by waqas ⌂ @, uk, Friday, June 27, 2014, 22:21 (1214 days ago) @ jawaid ahmed,uk

peace/salaam brother,

Thanks for the reply.

Firstly, please do not confuse my use of language as anything other than trying to be accurate. Some authors use absolutist language when it is completely unwarranted.

It is unfortunate, that you once again fail to address the verses discussing SBH at specific times.

In any case, our views are similar, but it seems to me that whilst I have allowed for a wider application of SBH you have restricted it.

the meaning of sabih - part 2

by jawaid ahmed,uk @, Monday, June 30, 2014, 07:59 (1212 days ago) @ waqas

Please be assured that I was not trying to ignore the verses of the Quran that mention specific times of the day to do “sabiha”, I was presenting my understanding of what I have learnt about this word. Explaining Tasbeeh/sabiha from Sabah which means strive hard establishes 24:41-44 as touchstone verses to understand this and if we are near to each other then there should be no problem; Get the understanding right and everything falls into place.

So, to extricate myself form my ‘self imposed’ restrictions, let us look at how specific times can be understood when sabiha is mentioned. I have tried to put them in context, what is being spoken about and I genuinely feel that any form singing, repeating verses of the Quran ritualistically, the names of Allah or Allah, Allah over and over again is not what is being asked of us.

33:42 GLORIFY MORNING/BKR AND EVENING/ASL

33:41 O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! Remember God with much remembrance. [Be ever mindful of God’s messages. Now it will be up to you to carry His message to mankind. 3:110, 35:32]
33:42 And strive to establish His glory on earth morning and night. [48:9]
33:43 He is the One Who bestows His blessings upon you, as do His angels, that He may bring you forth from the depths of darkness into the light. And He is Compassionate to those who choose to believe. [2:155-157, 9:103, 14:1, 14:15, 33:56]
33:44 Their salutation on the Day they meet Him is, "Peace!" And He has readied for them a generous reward.

21:20 THEY GLORIFY NIGHT AND DAYTIME, THEY DO NOT TIRE. *

21:19 Unto Him belongs whoever is in the heavens and earth. All creation dwells in His Dominion and none is ever too proud to obey His laws, nor do they get tired.
21:20 They (extol His glory and) strive night and day towards the fulfillment of His Plan and do not pause.


48:9 GLORIFY MORNING/BKR AND EVENING/ASL

48:7 God’s are the forces of the heavens and earth, and God is Mighty, Wise. [45:22]
48:8 (O Prophet) We have sent you as a witness (to the truth and to people), as a bearer of good news, and as a warner. [2:143]
48:9 So that you mankind may believe in God and His Messenger. Therefore, support the Messenger and honor him and do your best to establish the glory of God from morning to evening. [33:41-42]
48:10 Those who pledge allegiance to you (O Prophet), in fact pledge allegiance to God. God’s hand is over their hands. So, whoever shatters his pledge shatters his own ‘self’. And whoever keeps his pledge with God, to him He will grant a supreme reward. [9:111]

30:17 GLORY BE TO GOD WHEN YOU REACH THE EVENING/MSW AND WHEN YOU REACH THE MORNING/SAAD-BH

30:14 On the Day the Hour comes, they will part company. And people will be sorted out.
30:15 As for those who attained belief and fulfilled the needs of others, they will be made happy in a Meadow of delight listening to beautiful music. [42:22, 43:70. ‘Hibr’ = Delightful music]
30:16 Whereas those who disbelieve, and reject Our messages, and the meeting of the Hereafter, they will be presented for punishment.
30:17 Therefore, glorify God when you retire at night, and when you rise in the morning. [Seek eminence in the twilight and dawn of your lives. 21:10, 23:71, 29:45, 29:51]
30:18 All praise belongs to Him in the heavens and on earth whether it is darkness of the night or brightness of the day. [The Universe bears testimony that all praise is due to Him]
30:19 He is the One Who brings forth the living from the dead and brings forth the dead from the living. And He gives life to earth after it has been lifeless. And thus shall you be brought forth. [Likewise, His guidance revives communities]

19:11 ...REVEALED/INDICATED TO HIS PEOPLE TO GLORIFY MORNING/BKR AND EVENING/ASL

19:10 Zacharias said, “My Lord! Give me a special message.” He said, “The message is that you shall not speak to people for three (days and) nights consecutively.” [3:40-41. Vow of silence - 19:26. He was not struck dumb (as claimed in Luke: 1:20-22)]
19:11 Then Zacharias came out from the shrine and told his deputies by signs, “Keep striving in your mission morning and evening that His glory be manifest to beholders.”
19:12 [John (Yahya) was born according to the good news] We told him “O Yahya! Hold fast to the scripture.” And We had granted him wisdom and good judgment when he was yet a little boy


24:36 IN HOUSES/SHELTERS THAT GOD HAS ALLOWED TO BE RAISED AND HIS NAME IS REMEMBERED/MENTIONED IN THEM. HE IS GLORIFIED THEREIN MORNING/GHDW AND EVENING/ASL

24:35 (This Advisory of) God is the Light of the heavens and earth. The example of His Light is that of the morning star in a splendid lamp placed in a niche made of pearls. This lamp is kindled from a blessed source, an olive neither of the East nor of the West, shining with boundless radiance. Its Light issues forth in all directions, untouched by foreign illumination. This Light glows by itself, beaming like a shiny candle, a cool chandelier. Light upon Light! God guides to His Light anyone who seeks guidance. This is one of the allegories God sets forth for men and women. God is Knower of all things and events.
[‘Advisory’ in 24:34 = God’s Light = Divinely originated Light = Divine Revelation = The Qur'an. 5:15, 20:51, 41:42, 42:52]
24:36 This light-giving lamp (the Qur’an) glows in houses that God has caused to be exalted, that His Name is celebrated in them. In them, His glory is extolled in the mornings and in the evenings. [The dwellers therein strive to raise His Name day and night]
24:37 (These are not the communities of monks but) they are such that neither business matters nor sale can divert them from the remembrance of God. They keep striving to consolidate the Divine System and set up the Economic Order of Zakaat in the society. They have awesome consciousness of the Day when hearts and eyes will be horrified. [50:20]


40:55 GLORIFY WITH PRAISE IN EVENING/3SHW AND MORNING/BKR

40:55 So, (O Prophet) remain patient in adversity. God’s promise always comes true. And guard yourself against slanders intended to cause dissension. And strive to manifest the praise of your Lord, night and day. [47:19, 48:2. Wa sabbih bihamd … = Strive to live by His code of conduct that people may realize the glory of the Supreme Guide. Zanb = Tail = Trailing behind in humanity = Sticking a blame or slander behind one’s back = Character assassination = Often translated as the vague ‘sin’]
40:56 Those who dispute the messages of God without any basis, are displaying the arrogance that is hidden in their chests and they do not even perceive it. Seek refuge, then, with God (to dispel their treacheries). He is the Hearer, the Seer. [7:146, 40:35. Bighayiri sultan ataahum = Without any authoritative evidence bestowed on them = Without any basis for them]
40:57 Surely, greater than the creation of the humans, is the creation of the heavens and the earth. But most people never know (what it implies). [The entire Universe submits to Divine laws, and so should mankind. 29:61]
40:58 But then, the blind of reason and the seer at heart are not equal. And neither are those who attain faith, and help others, equal to those who create imbalance in people’s lives. How seldom do you use your mind!
40:59 Surely, the Hour is coming; of this there is no doubt. Yet most people do not believe. [That the Revolution will come on this earth and finally, in the Cosmos. 9:33]
40:60 Your Lord has said, "Call upon Me and I shall respond to you. Surely, those who are too proud to serve Me, will enter Hell, disgraced." [Whenever you need guidance, turn to My Book and you will find the answer]

41:38 THOSE WHO ARE WITH YOUR LORD GLORIFY HIM IN THE NIGHT AND DAYTIME AND THEY DO NOT TIRE. *

41:37 (Divine Guidance helps people live a balanced life as seen in the Universe.) Among His Signs are the night and the day as well as the sun and the moon. Adore neither the sun nor the moon, but adore God Who created them, if it is Him you wish to serve.
41:38 But if they are too proud, those who are with your Lord, extol His glory night and day, and tire not. [All things in the Universe are working to manifest His glory]
41:39 And among His signs is this: You see the earth barren. As soon as We send down water upon it, it thrills and vibrates with life. He Who revives it, certainly is the Reviver of the dead. For, He has power over all things. [His laws can revive the dead of heart and nations in misery]
41:40 Those who distort Our messages are not hidden from Us. So, is he who is cast into the fire better, or he who comes secure on the Resurrection Day? Do what you will, He is ever Seer of all you do.
41:41 Think of those who fail to see the power in this Reminder when it comes to them. Certainly, it is a Tremendous Scripture.


50:39-40 GLORIFY WITH PRAISE BEFORE RISING OF THE SUN AND BEFORE SETTING OF THE SUN AND FROM THE NIGHT SO GLORIFY HIM AND AFTER ENDS OF THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT/SJD**

50:37 Therein is a Reminder for him who has a heart and listens with presence of mind.
[50:21. ‘Aw’ = Or = That is = So that = As it is = And so. Heart has frequently been used in the Qur’an in the sense of mind. But, in general, heart points to qualities such as courage, sensitivity, determination, character. Nafs is the term for mind, ‘self’, personality, Ego. Shaheed = Witness = In presence]
50:38 And (who believes that) for sure, We created the heavens and earth, and all that is between them, in six stages, and weariness did not even touch Us. [Six Stages or Eras: 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, 25:59, 50:38, 57:4, 41:10]
50:39 So, bear with patience whatever they say. And strive to establish the glory and praise of your Lord, from before sunrise to before sunset.
[Sabbih bihamd is usually translated as the ritualistic, ‘praise the Lord’, ‘celebrate His praise’, ‘hymn His praises’. But Sabbih means ‘strive hard’, and it has nothing to do with Tasbeeh of rosary beads]
50:40 And during part of the night too, strive to manifest His glory, and adore Him with constancy. [52:49, 73:20]
50:41 And the day is coming when a caller will call from close-by. [The enemy will approach you for war]
50:42 The day on which they will hear the real battle-cry. That is the day of coming forth (along with your companions, O Prophet).

76:25-26 REMEMBER/THIKR THE NAME OF YOUR LORD MORNING/BKR AND EVENING/ASL AND FROM THE NIGHT SO GIVE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT/SJD TO HIM** AND GLORIFY A LONG NIGHT

76:23 Most certainly, We have revealed to you the Qur’an from Our Presence. [I tend to agree with Muhammad Asad that this verse addresses any sincere student of the Qur’an]
76:24 Therefore, hold on to your Lord’s command unwaveringly. And do not heed any sinner or unbeliever. [Aathim = ‘Sinner’ from Ithm = One who depletes individual or communal energy]
76:25 Raise the Name of your Lord morning and evening. [Zikr = Remembrance = Commemoration = Raise = Celebrate = Magnify = Give eminence = Taking to heart = Keeping in mind]
76:26 Adore Him even at night and strive to establish His glory on earth through long nights (as you do morning and evening).
76:27 But there are those who love the instant gains and neglect the remembrance of a grievous day.
76:28 (Who gave them the mind and body to behave the way they choose?) We created them, and strengthened their frame. But whenever We will, We can substitute others in their place. [Peoples that will use their human potentials better. 70:41]

7:205 REMEMBER/THIKR YOUR LORD WITHIN YOURSELF, HUMBLY AND (IN) FEAR; AND WITHOUT LOUDNESS OF WORDS, IN THE MORNING/GHDW AND THE EVENING/ASL

7:204 When the Qur’an is read, listen to it with full attention, and listen to it silently, that you may receive mercy.
7:205 Remember your Lord within yourself humbly and in reverence, and without raising your voice, morning and evening. Be not among the negligent.
7:206 Those who are with your Lord (the truly devoted), are never too proud to serve Him. They strive to establish His glory on earth by adoring Him and submitting to His commands.

52:48-49 GLORIFY WITH PRAISE WHEN YOU STAND/ARISE. AND FROM THE NIGHT SO GLORIFY HIM AND AFTER THE STARS ***

52:43 Or do they have a god other than God? Glorified is God far above what they associate with Him.
52:44 Even if they were to see a fragment from the sky falling, they would say, “A dense cloud!” [Their lack of reasoning makes them oblivious to the Law of Requital. 26:187]
52:45 So, leave them alone until they meet that Day of theirs wherein they shall be thunderstruck.
52:46 The Day when none of their scheming will avail them, nor will they be helped.
52:47 And for oppressors, violators of human rights and those who relegate the truth, there is a punishment beyond that. But most of them know not. [That their wrongdoing hurts their own ‘self’. Three meanings of Zaalimeen given in the beginning of the verse]
52:48 (O Messenger) work patiently to establish the Rule of your Lord, for you are in Our eyes. Begin your day with a firm resolve and work to manifest the praise of your Lord. [In Our eyes = Under God’s affectionate support and care]
52:49 And even at night do your best to manifest His praise, and at the setting of the stars.


3:41 ...GLORIFY HIM IN THE EVENING/3SHY AND MORNING/BKR

3:40 Zakariya prayed to God, but then wondered, “My Lord! How could I have a son when old age has overtaken me already and my wife is barren?” He said, “So it will be, God does everything according to His laws.” [The infertility in his wife was cured. 21:90]
3:41 Thankful, Zakariya asked, “My Lord! Give a message to me.” He said, “The message to you is that you shall not speak to people for three days (and nights), except by signs. Remember your Lord much and keep striving in His cause night and day.” [19:10. Abstaining from speech would save the elderly couple from the embarrassing curiosity of people]


38:18 WE SUBJECTED THE MOUNTAINS WITH HIM TO GLORIFY IN THE EVENING/3SHY AND SUNRISE/SHRQ.

38:17 Bear with patience whatever they may say, and remember Our servant David, the man of strength and resources. He always turned to Us (for guidance).
38:18 We subdued for him the strong Mountain Tribes that strove along with him night and day.
38:19 And the nomad riders of Tayir Tribe were all obedient to him. [21:79, 27:16, 34:10]
38:20 We strengthened his kingdom and gave him wisdom and good judgment. And We endowed him with the ability to make just decisions, and speak eloquently. [17:39, 43:63]

20:130 GLORIFY WITH PRAISE OF YOUR LORD BEFORE RISING OF THE SUN AND BEFORE SETTING OF THE SUN AND FROM HOURS OF NIGHT SO GLORIFY AND EDGES/SIDES OF THE DAYTIME SO THAT YOU MAY BE PLEASED/SATISFIED.

20:130 So, (O Prophet) be patient about what they say. Strive in the way of your Lord beginning before dawn to before sunset and even during hours of the night, practically all day, that the Divine System becomes a living witness of His praise. Thus you will attain true happiness (with success in your noble mission.)
20:131 And do not turn your eyes towards the splendor of the worldly life We have caused many to enjoy. The provision of your Lord is better and more lasting. [13:17. 15:88. Worldly gifts are a test for them to live righteously or turn away from guidance. 104:6-7]
20:132 Enjoin upon your family and followers that their central duty remains the establishment of the Divine System. We do not ask you to provide for Us, We provide for you. And the future (and Hereafter) belongs to the righteous.

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